From time to time we could all use a little jolt to get us operating at a higher level. That could be personal, or business performance, but the blueprint to achieving is virtually the same. In this episode, we discuss various aspects of living a higher-performance lifestyle. Judy Skilling is a certified high-performance coach, mother, and U.S. Navy veteran.

Guest Links: https://www.judyskilling.com/

Transcript from Episode 11 with Judy Skilling:

Keith McKeever 0:02

Welcome to the battle buddy podcast with Keith McKeever. Hey, welcome everybody to the battle buddy Podcast. I'm Keith McKeever your host. And if you happen to be military or veteran, you've reached a point where you can't just push through where something is blocking you professionally, personally, whatever. And you might need a high performance coach to kind of get you get you to that next level up your game a little bit. I got the episode for you. I have Judy skilling here with me. She is a certified high performance coach. And that's what we're going to talk about today is kind of pushing through that. And what, what really that entail? So, Judy, go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself your story, like, where you're from, what your military journey was, and how you got to where you're at today?

Judy Skilling 0:45

Awesome. Yeah, no, thank you so much, Keith, for having me on the show. It's always awesome to just you know, support and give back to veterans and really just sharing my message. So thank you so much. A little bit about me. I Navy veteran, I served, I was a corpsman. So I served from 2000 to 2007. And absolutely loved my time in the Navy. I was on three different amphib ships, it was deployed during Operation Iraqi Freedom and during freedom, you know, lived in Italy for a couple of years lived in Puerto Rico. So I definitely when they say travel the world, I traveled the world, in the Navy, absolutely loved it, I got out and I was passionate about medical medicine, and nursing. And so I got out and got my bachelor's in nursing, in Texas in San Antonio from the Health Science Center. And at that time, that's where I met my husband, and we got married and then moved to Colorado. And about two years into our marriage, unfortunately, he was Army National Guard. And two years into our marriage, he got diagnosed with cancer at the age of 25. And it was it changed everything for us. And during that time, this was around 2013 We also had a baby girl she was she wasn't even a year at the time. And so um, so I, you know, practicing as a nurse, and now we have this toddler or like this little one, and now we have this cancer diagnosis. Everything just like crap, what do we do? Just do everything. Just

Keith McKeever 2:18

crazy. Yes, yeah, totally. Yeah, oh, sorry to hear about your, your late husband there. I know that, that had to be extremely tough. And when you complicate things with having a baby and, you know, just moving to an area, that's, that's got to be tough, but it's a testament to your strength to push back through that, and then, you know, end up on this journey or on so.

Judy Skilling 2:38

Yeah. And so. So we for five years, you know, we he, he fought cancer, and unfortunately, he lost his battle to cancer. And during that time of that five year, you know, battle, it was on my side, it was just a How could I be home with my family? You know, how can I, you know, step away from nursing and be there more for my family so I can look after them. And so I was looking around online and stumbled across coaching. And when I understood like, what coaching was outside of like the sports performance arena that everybody is familiar with, when they

Keith McKeever 3:13

hear coaching, I mean, you don't have a whistle you blow

Judy Skilling 3:21

so you know what I understood what that was that something deep in my soul resonated strongly, and I knew that that was like, the next path for me. So unfortunately, after losing him, I really shifted my focus of coaching and what that looked like, in during the year after he passed away, I spent a lot of time working on myself and processing through grief and like what that looks like for me in that next phase, which I'm sure lots of people have been in that position like what do I do now? You know, after a traumatic life events, especially, you know, leaving the military separation, it's a traumatic life events, right?

Keith McKeever 3:55

He's a quite a lot last themselves. What do I do now?

Judy Skilling 3:58

What do I do now? And, and I came across high performance through Brendon Burchard, I bought his book, high performance habits, and it just resonated. I was like, Oh, I love this stuff. And I just consumed everything that Brendon produced and created, and I just resonated so strongly with it. So I invested in a high performance coach, you know, to help me kind of sort things out, like what do I need to do? And I worked with a coach for about nine months. And in that nine months, I was focusing on growing my coaching business at the time. This was before I became certified as a high performance coach. I was a coach in transformational and spiritual coaching, like law of attraction, universal principles, things like that. And, you know, I wrote a book got published on Amazon, you know, built more relationships that were meaningful and intimate and deep, you know, and had better relationship with my daughter not saying it was horrible, but just more intention and more purposeful and like how I wanted to show up as a person and I absolutely loved it. And I was like I want To be a coach, so I can tell, you know, help people do this, because I saw the results it created in my own life when I followed this system. So I became a certified high performance coach and, and have been certified since 2018. And now it's my business, it's my passion. And the reason you know, I love serving military and veteran people, because everything that I've learned as being a student prior to becoming certified complemented everything that I learned in the military, like the structure and accountability, and like, the seeking for more and getting better and better and better, because we're all grim like that, in the military, we want to be better than our, you know, coworkers, we want to achieve the ranks, we want to brag, so to speak, or, like, you know, we always want to continue improving ourselves. And that's what, you know, resonated so strongly. And I was like, I gotta get out, you know, I gotta serve, I gotta serve my brothers and sisters, like, I got to, you know, do this. And so I love, you know, giving back and serving military and veteran population, because it's so impactful. And it's, it's mind blowing, I love it. It's,

Keith McKeever 6:07

it's good for the soul, right? Yeah, same way, we talked the other day. And he, I think, you know, where my heart is, like, I feel the same way just to be able to give back offer some value. That's the whole idea of this podcast, too, is to discuss issues that might resonate with military and veteran or military, spouse, families, whatever, that they might find useful, and get somebody on a path to a better life, whatever, whatever. That's exactly what it is. But I can totally understand to like reading through that book. And having like, those, I don't know, if you want to call it light bulb moments, or those aha moments, like, different things just going off? What, wow, I get that, like, now makes sense, in a different way, kind of thing like I can, I can kind of understand how that would be really, really interesting with the background, both of us being vets, you know, it's you're seeing that, I can see how that totally works. So just more

Judy Skilling 6:57

and more and more in how do I get better? And how do I use this in my own life, and, you know, it's just that constant. And I know, and I will, I love personal development. I am like a personal development junkie, you know, I consume everything about it, because I always want to work on myself. And, you know, even being a coach, I use the same principles in my life and like, and I work with a coach myself, too, because how can I get better, if I'm not working with somebody to help shed those types of insights and perspectives, and to help me and challenge me, you know, to step up, and so like, I'm a coach myself, but I work with a coach, because I continuously want to get better and better and better, you know? And so,

Keith McKeever 7:33

that makes sense. We should all you know, have the inner reflection, actually, it's kind of a question I was going to lead to later. But I'll just go ahead and ask it now. Because I think reflection is huge, you should be able to reflect inward and realize what your strengths or weaknesses are. So on this journey, you know, where have you succeeded? Like, where do you feel like you've succeeded? Where do you feel like you failed, you know, however you want to define that journey. But I think it's, you know, important thing to look at where you've succeeded and failed.

Judy Skilling 8:02

Yeah, no, I definitely am further along as a person today than I was, you know, yesterday, even But even you know, looking back into a couple years ago, I wouldn't even imagine myself how far I have grown and developed. And I would say, like, I've experienced some massive downs, where I was just like, what the, what the heck did I do? I know, we were talking the other day, and I shared with you the story of, you know, after losing my husband, I wanted to live in England, and I brought this opportunity into my world. And so I just up and moved to England with my daughter, like, got a job opportunity over there as a nurse, international nursing. And I remember, you know, this is maybe a couple months after things have settled and started working. And, you know, I have a nanny for my little one moment work. And one day, I just, like, broke down in tears. I was like, What did I just do?

Keith McKeever 9:00

I'm at the back of the head like, I do.

Judy Skilling 9:03

Like, why, why did I do this? Like I you know, and I think that's when reality sits, you know, and it hits you. And I don't regret at all making that decision. It was the one of the best experiences I ever put myself in willingly because anybody in their right mind would like no, you don't need you don't need to move to a different country, let alone you're preparing.

Keith McKeever 9:25

Why not though it worked out, you know, makes you a stronger person.

Judy Skilling 9:30

Exactly. It was just the resilience and and during that time, I needed to go through that growth, to prepare me for this next phase of my life. And I think that when you're looking at failure, and you're choosing to put yourself in that position, because sometimes failure happens and you're like, Okay, what happened? What can I learn from this? How can I prevent this from happening? And that's a room for personal growth, but when you choose to put yourself in a situation that is challenging, that is outside of your comfort zone, you know that you know that if If you don't take advantage of this opportunity, you could be missing out on something that would be, you know, that leads you to that next step. And so I wanted to take advantage of this opportunity, because you know, what I wanted to live in England, but I didn't expect what would happen once I made that decision of the massive personal growth. So you know, that that was definitely a really steep learning curve for me. But it considered a failure, but it was definitely a personal growth. And I would say, like, success wise, you know, me becoming more intentional with my business and really connecting with the veteran community and, and going back and serving, I can start to see some of the success, you know, and the doors opening and things like that, when I've had, you know, more purpose and intention of like, you know, this is what I want to do and becoming more, you know, focused with it. So it's, yeah, it's, I feel like it's just starting, and it's, it's definitely gaining a lot of momentum. And it's absolutely wonderful, you know, to witness and experience for sure.

Keith McKeever 10:58

You just said two things there that I think are a perfect transition to this next thing, purpose and attention. Because High Performance Coaching, nobody's gonna think about high performance coaching, unless they're probably succeeding at some level, but they need to push through whatever that barriers. And so you have to have that purpose, obviously, that mission, whatever you're going on, but you have to have that intention. And that attention step is actually getting a coach for whatever coaching it is, whether it's high performance coaching, or physical coaching, you know, go to the gym, doing your thing, whatever. But pushing through that, getting that coach and say, Look, I can't do it all on my own. I need some extra tools in my toolbox to get through this fact. Right. So one of the things that you do is what you call high performance assessment. So what what exactly does that look like? For you?

Judy Skilling 11:48

Yeah, no, that's an amazing opportunity for somebody to experience what high performing high performance coaching is. It's an awesome time for me to have a one on one, it's a three hour coaching assessment. And when I say three hours, people, like that's a lot of time. I'm like, No, it's the it's the best three hours of your life you will probably ever spend.

Keith McKeever 12:11

We spent a couple hours together yesterday, we weren't even, you know, yeah. They're talking especially about successes and how you push through things.

Judy Skilling 12:20

Yeah, and it's so it's really deep and impactful. And it's an awesome coaching session where we really get clear on like, the five areas of high performance. And so we'll talk about clarity, energy, courage, productivity and influence. And each part of those, you know, we talk about and kind of uncover and, and the client, you know, really gets an idea of what it is that they need to work on. So they walk away after the three hours, like, okay, now I know exactly, these top three things are top two things I really need to work on and focus and move for, you know, there's always, there's every single person I do this with, they're like, they got pages and pages of notes. And we're like, I need to certain like, digest all this because so much. But when you really nail it down, it's just like, Okay, now I know exactly what my next action is. And that's my game plan. And I had these insights and realizations. And it's really interactive, engaging, and it's a fun session, you know, I love doing them. And it's the fastest three hours you will ever have in your life, I pretty much guarantee. Everybody says like, oh my gosh, it's, that's three hours. I was like, yeah, sorry. But it's really great opportunity for somebody to experience what High Performance Coaching is, and, and for them to walk away with like, yeah, that was really awesome, or that's up or whatever impression but but most of the time, 99% of the time, everybody loves it, it's really powerful. They gain a lot of, you know, insight, you know, a lot of growth, a lot of action, and they're like, Okay, now I know what to do.

Keith McKeever 13:54

So when you hear that suck, it's probably with their weakest, weakest, one of the five.

Like, dude, I got some work to do here, like, but we all do, like all those five categories, you're not going to be equal in any one person, you're going to be stronger in one category than the other. If you can have the purpose and attention to sit down to figure out what those are, then you can figure out where your strengths and weaknesses are. And then you can attack which you need to do, you'll bolster what you're good at, put the energy into what you're bad at, and just try to improve. And that's how you break through the

Judy Skilling 14:30

barrier. Launching point like, you know, I did a session with somebody that for three hours, you know, he had a lot of stuff going on. And that's usually when people were like, Could you help me just figure I got so much stuff going on. I don't even know what I need to focus on. Because this is this has my attention and this has my attention. And as veterans like we tend to take on a lot of stuff. You know, like that's just we always have so many projects and stuff going on because that's just I don't know what that's what is Wouldn't we? So he took advantage of this coaching session, and I helped him kind of get a little clarity on what was the most important thing that he needed to focus on. Two or three days later, he comes back to me, he's like, Judy, that session, like changed everything, like, I increased my productivity by 50%, just from that three hour coaching. And I was like, that's amazing. Like, so when you, you know, it works differently. Everybody walks away with completely different results. It's not just like the typical like, yes, everybody walks away with X amount of result, it's what you what is most meaningful for you to walk away with? And that's what you take action on those results. And she

Keith McKeever 15:41

says, yeah, so these five different things are clarity, energy, productivity, courage and influence. Some of those sound pretty self explanatory. But I also feel like, maybe there's some hidden meanings and stuff in there. So how would you define each one of those? Oh,

Judy Skilling 15:58

yeah, um, clarity is, I feel like clarity is like one of those things. It's like a personal definition. You know, and everybody has clarity. It's just one of those words, like, you should get clarity. And especially in the coaching world, everybody uses that word. And it's overused to, in my opinion, that it's just like, I don't get what clarity is, but when, when I try to explain what clarity is, it's like, where you are right now in your life? What is it that makes you happy? And what is it that you would love doing? And when I ask those kinds of simple questions, people are like, Okay, well, you know, I can't ask, what are you clear about that? So, what's your

Keith McKeever 16:38

vision? Yeah, if you're not there, you're not going to get there.

Judy Skilling 16:41

And even then, that's really hard for people to kind of create, because, you know, when you leave the military, you're like, I don't even know what to do. You know, how can I create a vision when I don't even know what to do? Like, so. So when I asked really simple questions, like, what is it that you enjoy doing? You know, what is it that if you could do something for the rest of your life not worry about getting paid for? What would that be? It doesn't matter? If it's, you know, wiggling wood, or sewing or whatever it is, what is it that you know, and that kind of helps clear it up a little bit and get down to like, tangible action steps where somebody's like, I actually really enjoy writing, or actually, I really enjoy speaking or whatever that looks like for you. Or I love tinkering with computers are, you know, so that's kind of like, that's how we started off, you know, when somebody's like, I don't know what to do. Okay, well, let's start with the basics. So that's how they explained clarity. And that, that is a little bit more for me to communicate with somebody who's like, I don't even know what clarity is. Energy is really, really key. Because, like, if your energy is like, at a zero, you're not gonna want to do anything. You're not gonna want to, like get out of bed. Sometimes.

Keith McKeever 17:53

We have those days.

Judy Skilling 17:57

When you're like, I can't be bothered right now. Like,

Keith McKeever 17:59

I just sleep in half today. Yeah, honestly. But it'd be nice.

Judy Skilling 18:07

And fun, it wouldn't be nice. But when we talk about energy, it's like, how do you feel on a day to day basis, on average, you know, and we look for ways to help tweak the energy to where you can get through, not only your day, but you have enough energy to get through like your tasks and your jobs and, and the things you're dealing with in your business, if you're an entrepreneur or business owner, and you don't feel like that energy slump at the end of the day, sometimes when people experience and they're like, I need a cup of coffee, two cups of coffee, three cups of coffee, and they like, try to, you know, externally stimulate yourself because Brendon Burchard, you know, he's my mentor, but he's the one who I've become certified through he's like, we, we generate energy where, like, you know, the, what is it the power plant, we, we, we generate our own energy. And so when you understand how to do that yourself, it's, it's amazing, you know, and you maintain that energy without feeling like you're burnt out like that crash that sometimes people

Keith McKeever 19:11

expect crash sucks. That's why raise my hand for those who listen to it not watching. I raised my hand a couple minutes ago, I was like, Yeah, that's me. That's me, that's off in the afternoon. Gotta keep going.

Judy Skilling 19:25

Just gotta keep it going. And productivity, you know, that kind of speaks for itself. You know? How productive Do you feel? And and the tweak that we talked about is like, what is it that you're being productive, that is moving you forward, because you can have a whole list of to do. But at the end of the day, you're like, I don't even feel like I did anything. You know, like, because you're not working on the most important things in your business or the most important things that are really like, moving you forward. You know, so that kind of speaks for itself. And we just kind of talk about like, you know, what it looks like for you in terms of productivity, Courage. Courage is One of those areas that you don't really think about, because when you think of courage, you're like, Man, I don't know, we I like to equate courage with confidence, you know, and usually, as veterans, we're pretty much confident. Because, you know, we served our country, we went to war, we were deployed, you know, we, we achieved a certain rank, so we already have a level of confidence. But what we talk about sometimes it's like, is there anything bold, or, you know, something that, that requires you to step up, and you're little trepidatious about doing so, you know, to step out of that, you know, or even just having, let's say, a difficult conversation that you've been avoiding, which doesn't really require, like, huge bold actions, but it requires some courage, you know, to have, you know, a lot of people avoid conflict.

Keith McKeever 20:52

So, before that, that barrier usually sits is that courage?

Judy Skilling 20:57

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it seems

Keith McKeever 21:00

natural kind of point. I mean, the rest of these, maybe, to me, kind of get you there. But having that courage, maybe sometimes to push that past that certain step or whatever it is, yeah. Job, ask for that raise whatever the whatever the case may be like that, that feels like the natural pain point. That could be in the process sometimes to achieving a higher level.

Judy Skilling 21:22

Yeah, exactly. And, you know, just to further emphasize that I'm the other day I was at a client call. And, you know, he had an unfortunate situation that happened over the holidays, and his family, you know, they were on lockdown. So they really weren't able to see each other for the, for the, for the holiday. And but some of his family members kind of broke the rule and mingled together during the holiday when they were supposed to be on lockdown. And he found out about it. And so it was we had a conversation about, you know, how do you feel about this? Is this something that you don't agree with, or that you do agree with, and it really, truly upset him, but he was the person to bring it up. Because he, you know, most everybody is just like, I'll just leave alone, I'll just pacify the situation and, you know, not want to rock the boat, per se. And, you know, it was just challenged him, like, you know, I think this is, this is something that is important to you. And if you don't speak up, you're going to repress it. And that's a lot of what that's that's what we do sometimes repress it. But when you acknowledge it, and value your own, you know, your own, what's important to you, and you address the situation, he might be really uncomfortable, but you're going to feel better about addressing a situation and taking that action, you're building up a little bit of that confidence and courage that I was just emphasizing on So, and he did he had this conversation, and it was a little awkward, of course. But afterwards, he's like, Yeah, I'm really glad I said something. Because, you know, it's important for me to be true to myself. If I say something, which is, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, you know, taking those courageous actions. And so lastly, influence. Influence is, what are those things that we don't think that we are influential, but we are, whether or not you thinks like we are all influential in one way, shape, or form, right, for a parent or a sibling, or, you know, a co worker, a boss, manager, whatever, especially as an entrepreneur, we are influential, you know, and so what kind of person are you showing up as to be the influence that people are looking to you as being, you know, and how are you being a role model, for example, for those people that are looking to you to be the influence? And so that that kind of, that really kind of hits home a little bit in terms of that's more of like a personal insight, like, oh, well, no matter no matter what, like somebody is always watching.

Keith McKeever 23:48

Oh, yeah. it or not, so everybody's paying attention to your moves. Exactly. Yeah, editors, business partners, employees, family, friends, everybody, everybody's keeping an eye on especially on social media. Everybody posts their pictures of their latest dinner and all kinds of stuff on everybody knows everything about you these days.

Judy Skilling 24:09

Yeah, it's just yeah, it's just one of those things you don't think about and so somebody's like, asks you these thought provoking questions. You're like, nobody's really ever asked me that before and, and we go there like we we get a picnic basket and we go there and we camp out and we explore and we like, you know, figure out how you are being influential in your life. And it shifts it shifts a lot of things.

Keith McKeever 24:35

Yeah, cuz somebody is always looking and even with even today's day and age where we're not face to face as much. You got social media, and for the most part, all that stuff is out there for ever. So people are seeing business owners, you know, not not to get political because I don't do that on my show. But with recent election, people on one side of the aisle or the other and you're posting things that are very, very controversial, sensitive that sticks with If you're a business owner, specifically, you can be potentially losing revenue by having your your voice be out there. You know, I don't, I made that personal choice years ago, I don't put it out there unless it's a veteran issue or real estate related. I don't talk about it plain as day, and I'll talk about those things because I'm passionate about them. And they apply to me, professionally, personally. Other than that, I don't talk about it. I don't post things. So that's something that people have to consider part of that influence is, it's not all face to face. It's just attracting leaving out there.

Judy Skilling 25:33

Yeah. And it's just, you know, even as a as a parent, you know, like, I have an eight year old daughter, and you have kids as well, too. Like, how are we showing up as a parent to influence our little ones? And how are they watching us? Because my little one will, like she, she, she's a smart cookie, kids are smart, like, you know, and she, they will pick up the behaviors that we demonstrate, and just even, you know, just even in our immediate circle, you know, even outside of social media, how are we being influential with our friends and our family and our relatives? You know, in our circle of friends, so

Keith McKeever 26:06

Yeah, little ones are launched, they will sponge up anything for anybody's listening doesn't have kids, they will watch your language, watch what you're talking about. watch who you talk about? Is No at all. Throw that out there at the worst time? Yeah, you'll be around somebody be like, Oh, I've heard that talk about you. I've heard mom talking. Oops. So yeah, watch that stuff. may think so. So what are the, you know, common obstacles that you see as a coach that, that people are having to overcome when it comes to highperformance? You know, to two or three main obstacles people have overcome?

Judy Skilling 26:46

Yeah, so you know, whenever I'm working with a client, you know, that they're ready and willing for change, you know, they're ready and willing, they're, they're willing to be vulnerable to to embrace what it is, you know, what change looks like for them. And it's not really the greatest journey. Sometimes when you're when I'm challenging a client. Sometimes, obstacles that come up that I can recognize are just, for example, beliefs, programmed beliefs that they think are true, but they're really not. And so when I challenge somebody, I'm like, How do you know that's true? Or, you know, can you show me, you know, can you share with me an example of that, that being true, and sometimes you call them out on their crap. And you're like, Yeah, that's probably not true. And so that's, you know, because we, the ego in our mind, and things like that, too, we can tell ourselves, we can convince ourselves really great on things that make sense that are not true. You know, if that I'm communicating that properly. So, you know, sometimes the obstacles that come up that for, for somebody to try to overcome is, you know, understanding their beliefs, and maybe realizing that they have been held on to a certain belief that has been leading them wrong, you know, this whole time. And to challenge that, and to shift that that has been, that is where you have some obstacles and some room for growth. So challenging beliefs for somebody that has been one of the biggest obstacles. And that's the whole purpose of a coach, you know, of course, is to shed shift that perspective. Another obstacle, sometimes I've ever come across is, I can, intuitively I can tell if somebody is not doing the work, you know, and I'm like, I follow up, I'm like, oh, so how did that work out? Hey, tell me about this. How did that plan describe that happened to me, and I'm purposely making sure that they followed through with what they said that they were going to do. And you can kind of just like

Keith McKeever 28:49

swearing and see like, it was fine, Jr. I'm really fine. It was awesome.

Judy Skilling 28:57

Really, like, really, really? Did you do that? You know, and so that, that provides the whole accountability part that that's, you know, for a coach to do that, and to provide that accountability to hold them to what they say that they're going to do. And sometimes, you know, I've had previous calls with clients who say, okay, so you're gonna go and do this, right. I'm gonna ask you about it next week. And I asked about it next week, actually, you know, something came up and I wasn't able to do that. And I was like, Are you? Are you serious about this? Like, I'm invested in you, you're invested in yourself, like, you know, come on, like, step it up. And so, sometimes I can, that's an obstacle because it can, it creates some it's uncomfortable, you know, it's something like when, when you're challenged, and you have that accountability of like, okay, Judy is going to ask me about this next week. I don't want to let them down or let her down. Yeah, let her down. And I would say like the third thing is Sometimes, those are probably the two biggest obstacles that I've come across. And I'd say, the third thing is, we think, I think. Yeah, just doing the work. And like being held accountable to it, you know, in their belief system, I would say that those are like the two biggest things. I can't think of a third thing off the top of my mind.

Keith McKeever 30:26

I'm sure those are two pretty common ones. Yeah, so shifting us back to the military and veteran, when might be the best time for somebody to look into high performance coaching? Is it? You know, maybe when they're in the military looking transition out during a transition? After as they're kind of establishing a career trying to push through something like, what do you think is maybe the best time I mean, it could be all it could be good times. But

Judy Skilling 30:54

yeah, so I usually like to the best time for somebody who is seeking to, you know, take their game to the next level is probably somebody who's already been out of the military for a couple couple, you know, a couple years or so, I feel that like when somebody is in transition, it's also a good time. But they have to be kind of settled during that transition phase, like they already might have a job, or they're probably in school, you know, and they they kind of have things kind of settled a little bit in terms of like meeting immediate needs. But they're also willing to kind of take on coaching to help guide them for the workbooks, sorry, for their more through this transition of knocking things off my desk, to kind of guide them further more in that transition, where like, they're, they're in school, they got a job, you know, and they they've already met their immediate needs. I don't mind talking, you know, addressing somebody who's in that transition phase to kind of give them that structure and accountability in the Help still guide them through that transition phase, but we're still talking about productivity and influence and things like that, too. But also, you know, somebody's already been out of the military for, you know, 234 years, and perhaps they do have a business right now, and things are starting to look really good, but they got so much stuff going on, that it's really hard for them to maintain focus, it's really hard for them to, like, Get clear, and to really excel, you know, because they're just trying to just put out a whole bunch of fires, and they feel like, they're just, you know, flooded, fluttering around, and they're like, I don't even know what I'm doing. But the, you know, day to day, they're okay. But overall, they're just like, I just, you know, I feel like everything's just, everything's going on, and I can't really get focused and got so many things going on. Yeah, it's, I can't have a list, or they're feeling flustered or something, they might need somebody to kind of help set them down, give them that structure, and be like, I can help you get clear, we can, you know, Excel, personally and professionally. So those are the usually like the two areas where somebody might be interested in taking on a coach to kind of give them that structure and stability

Keith McKeever 33:01

makes a heck of a lot of sense. To me, having a little bit of clarity, a little bit of purpose, a little bit of a of a foundation below, you makes a lot of sense. Because if you got way too many things going on, you're just, you know, like a kid with a, or a dog with a squirrel, you know, just like, you know, too many things going on too much to pay attention to, you're not gonna be able to, you know, center yourself and focus on the path you need to get on. So that's some great stuff. And while we finish up these last couple of questions, I'm gonna go ahead and throw your information up here on the screen. So if anybody's interested in reaching out to Judy, you can go to www dot Judy skilling calm, and you can sign up for the high performance assessment or coaching whatever you need. Get all that there. So I've got three questions today, I ask everybody that is a veteran when they come on the show, just to give a little bit of advice to those at different points in the career or find some things. So first one is, what is your advice to somebody looking to get out of the military? Roughly in this time?

Judy Skilling 34:00

Yeah, um, the one thing that really helped me when I got out, and I was just in a completely different frame of mind, I was like, in my mid 20s, you know, because I joined a week after high school and I served seven years ago, I was like, in my mid 20s. And I just wanted to get out, like, I didn't care. I just wanted to get out. And a friend of mine pulled me aside and he told me about like, disability compensation. And I was like, I don't really care. I need to get out. Like, I wasn't listening. And he's like, No, Judy, like, this is really important. You really need to talk, you know, you really need to do disability compensation. I was like, Okay, fine. And I'm so glad that he did. Because, you know, I went through that, you know, I went through that school, the screening of the disability compensation and stuff like that, too. And so, so they rated me and things like that, too. And if I didn't listen to my friend, you know, I would have missed out, you know, on that extra little bit of money. So that was something that I found highly valuable, which I'm sure a lot of people harp on right now to this day. But I, one of the things that I've learned Just talking to other veterans who have separated within the past five years, is they don't really talk about entrepreneurship, as you leave the military, they pretty much tell you, you go to school, when you get a job, or you just hang out at home, and they don't really talk about being an entrepreneur when you transition out. And having that as an option. And I think veterans are amazing entrepreneurs, you hear of massively successful entrepreneurs that are veterans, instead of, because we have the skill set, we have the ambition, we have the, you know, motivation to do stuff. So that would be probably like my look into being an entrepreneur, for sure. As you separate out.

Keith McKeever 35:41

Awesome. That's a good one,

Judy Skilling 35:42

the Dota buff section. Yeah,

Keith McKeever 35:45

that's a good one. That's one thing I was told immediately when I got out first saying, head down to the VA, like, find a VSO and file, you know, get in the system and get some health care. They all come out with some fine, yeah, we all come out with some bumps and bruises here and there, you know, get them checked out, get yourself in the system, get that medical care for at least those issues. So second question here. Somebody who's looking to join the military today, what advice would you have them in 2021? about joining the military?

Judy Skilling 36:15

You know, it's funny that you brought that up? Because I'm always partial to like, you need to join the Navy.

Keith McKeever 36:21

Okay, do y'all reframe it, you get somebody joining the Navy,

Judy Skilling 36:25

Air Force. Air Force, and I'm like, always join the Navy or the Air Force, but that's just because I'm partial. And my brother was Air Force as well, too. So like, that's my own bias. Um, you know, it's funny that you brought that up, because my sister who has no affiliation with the military whatsoever, she's like, I'm thinking of joining the reserves, and my sister's like, 35. I was like, why would you do that? But, you know, that's kind of anyway, if somebody came to me, and then I kept thinking, joining the military, outside of my own bias opinion of like, hey, you need to join these two branches. But what I would just say that is, find a job that you really genuinely enjoy doing. And don't settle for any substitutes. Because when I joined, I was passionate about medicine, I was passionate about nursing, I wanted to be in the medical field, like I knew that. And I stuck to that. And when I took my eyes back, they're like, Oh, well, your score, you could also do this job, this job, this job, this job, and I was like, No, I want to do medicine. And they're like, right now, there's not really that, you know, there's not any openings. And they try to like, you know, swindle you, of course, that's what the recruiters do. And I was like, Well, if I don't get it, I'm not joining like, you have to hold your own. And he's like, I'll see what I can do, of course, you know, and they're like, oh, okay, there's an opening you can you can be a corpsman

Keith McKeever 37:48

imagine what happened.

Judy Skilling 37:51

I was like, Well, this is. So that's the advice that I would say it's like, find something that you really do enjoy doing that you wouldn't mind spending the military. And that's why I joined my blog, my 18 year old brain was like, I don't know if I want to go to nursing school. So let me join the military to learn medicine. And if I enjoy it, then I know that I can get out and I can still go to nursing school, but if I don't enjoy it, well, if I get out that I know that that's not for me. So that was my 18 year old logic at the time. So yeah, that's a lot.

Keith McKeever 38:27

That's a lot of maturity to really think that because I don't think everybody does. So last question I got here for you, before we wrap this up is, is there any veteran groups, Facebook groups, organizations, clubs, whatever that you'd like to give a shout out to the you think has been valuable to yourself? Or people, you know?

Judy Skilling 38:44

Yeah. And so I actually have a Facebook group of my own. So I'm just going to be like plugging my own stuff. Of course, that's my website. But I have a Facebook group that is just military and veteran people. And I go in and I share tips about high performance and what that looks like and maintain it and a lot of personal development and growth, and just giving back and serving. And so, you know, I'm still growing that and still providing value. And you can just join the group on Facebook. And it's like a high performance for military and veteran entrepreneurs. Like it's pretty simple. But outside of that, the Facebook groups that I belong to that have been really valuable. I partnered with a friend of mine, he has a Facebook group called veterans in business. And it's a group of about, you know, 2300 people, but he does happy hours every Monday and he does trainings every Thursday. And these happy hours are just all these different kinds of veteran business owners. You know, they come in, share a little bit about themselves, you're networking and you're getting to know other people. And that's kind of what you know, when I decided to plug back into the veteran community, I started showing up to these happy hours to build relationships, and I've become friends with with a lot of the people that I've met and so that's a really great Facebook group. It's really active. It's very engaging, if you want to do that, as well as the veteran outdoor tribe. You know, that is a really fantastic that's a group of like 14,000 people. And it's a very active beggar in Facebook group that are mostly all entrepreneurs. And so those are the three that I would highly suggest, first

Keith McKeever 40:19

be a member because I. So you'll have to send, you know, for this YouTube, when this gets posted, I'll make sure I put your link in the description there. Once again, it's Judy skilling calm, you can find her there. So any links she has, I will definitely share those in the YouTube description for anybody that's happened to be watching it, so that you can go there and find it. And, Judy, I'll let you get out of here. I know you got some some of the things you got on your plate this evening. But thanks so much for being here. I think this is this is amazing. I know a lot of people could really use this or just even the ideas of the, you know, the five high performance traits, you know, you if you start thinking about that it might set somebody down the right path, to look at those different things. So thank you so much. And I think you gave us some nuggets here in the beginning of some other things we could talk about, you know, law of attraction and other things like that would be some another interesting topic for a whole another day.

Judy Skilling 41:12

days. I love that stuff. Ah,

Keith McKeever 41:14

yeah, I think this stuff's pretty interesting. I think maybe I should get into psychology, but I don't know if I want to know much about burnings.

Judy Skilling 41:21

Yeah. This is, yeah, this is a different kind of psychology. Yeah. But anyway, love it. Alrighty. Well,

Keith McKeever 41:28

I appreciate you. Stopping by and dropping some knowledge for everybody. And we'll catch you some other time. Right. Right. All right. There you have it, everybody, Judy skilling high performance coach. If you're in the market, I highly suggest you get out there. She's a wonderful person. Very proud to have met her through the entrepreneur tribe that she mentioned. So you know, that's, that's all we got for this show today. Don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button and follow us wherever, wherever you're getting it on. Apple Music, Google, whatever. They're calling it to us today, Spotify, anchor all those different places. So catch you catch you another time.

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